Interview with Susan d'Antoni
"Using open content is a factor for change at universities"
July , 2006 / By Àngels Doñate (UOC)
The Canadian Susan d'Antoni considers herself fortunate. Early in her career she visited UNESCO and
impressed with the vision and the work being undertaken, she decided "This is where I will plan to
end my career". She has been living in the French capital since 1991 and working at the UNESCO
International Institute for Educational Planning (IIEP) since 1995. She is one of the experts in
new technologies and education at this worldwide organisation that is part of the UN. D'Antoni
heads the IIEP Virtual Institute.
Susan d'Antoni is currently working on open content, in which she has great interest and about
which she spoke to the UOC. Open content (or Open Educational Resources) is any creative work
(articles, photos, audio or video) that is published in a format that explicitly allows for copying
and re-use. Open content may be in the public domain or under an "open" licence, such as those
offered by Creative Commons.
What do you feel are the advantages that open contents offer the university
community?
I would stress the difference between the benefits for students and the benefits for
professors. The former are the focus for what universities do - their main function. But,
obviously, open content can be used by people for independent learning, without their having to
enrol at an institution. There comes a time in life when our knowledge is not sufficient - initial
education is rarely sufficient for the whole of our lives, either as individuals or as
professionals. For this reason, it is very important that we have the chance to continue to learn
both formally and informally. Despite the fact that we use them informally to improve our
knowledge, Open Educational Resources that can be accessed from universities normally have a
structured format. If students need qualifications, then they have to enrol at a university. But,
if they do not, then they can learn anywhere.
This opens many doors for citizens in certain countries?
I believe this kind of learning is important in any country, but, obviously, it is more
important in developing countries. There, the percentage of the population with the opportunity to
go to university is very low. With open content accessible on the internet, there is more
information available to those who do not have the chance to study at a university. If the learner
has the minimum infrastructure needed to access the Internet (which is an important point!), open
content can make a contribution to the development of their skills in their own countries.
Can professors also benefit?
I think that professors can benefit in two ways. They are the producers of content - they
develop it and make it accessible. But they are also the people who use the materials produced by
others to teach. Making your content accessible raises your profile: if you put your work on the
Internet, your ideas become much more accessible to others. One of the aims of the university is to
create and disseminate knowledge; and this is a way to increase the sharing of new knowledge. If
you consider using other people's work, then you have the chance to search for information from
among different academic resources from various institutions, with distinct cultural and linguistic
traditions from around the world. This knowledge can be used to enhance your own to prepare classes
by adopting and adapting that which is relevant and appropriate in order to meet your needs. This
may prove to be a much more effective process than that where each academic around the world
individually creates his or her own content. Once again, I would like to highlight that this may be
of especial benefit in developing countries where professors may not have access to significant
resources, such as libraries.
Some institutions may be suspicious of this attitude?
If you see universities as social institutions supported by the societies they serve, then an
initiative like this one makes sense. If universities make their content open, then they give back
intellectual content to society, and achieve their mission. We, at UNESCO, see universities as
having the role of creating new knowledge, transferring this to the new generations and offering a
service to society, by making it known. Sharing content and knowledge over the Internet is a way of
serving society in general, and of going beyond borders. This makes university institutions more
open. Open Educational Resources will become accessible internationally.
So far, we have only seen advantages, but? what risks do open contents imply or what problems
do they involve?
The main problem, from a user's point of view (student or professor), is knowing whether the
material you are looking at is of a high enough quality. If the material is from a world-renowned
institution, then you have some idea of the quality; but, if they are from an institution or
academic that you have not heard of, then you do not know what you have before you. I think that
this is the main issue at the moment. We need some way of knowing the level of quality of Open
Educational Resources on the Internet.
Do you think that using this model will lead to changes in university institutions as we
know them?
Absolutely! Change always invites institutions to rethink and reassess relations with their
academic staff. Offering content freely and openly on the web is a new model: policy decisions and
plans are needed, there are legal implications and resources are required. It is definitely a
factor for change!
How do you see the UOC in this new university panorama?
The UOC is a new, interesting and inspiring university model. There are two aspects in this:
the university is linked to the local society, but? it has the ability and willingness to go beyond
the local environment. Thanks to this innovative model, which after eleven years has proven itself
to be effective, it has the obligation to contribute to the discussions that other organisations
are now considering new approaches and new methods of serving learners. It is important to share
the knowledge learned by its professionals, their experiences? I think that the UOC is an
interesting new model for institutions with a specific vision of how to serve society.
- Expert in distance education and the use of technology in higher education.
- She is currently head of the Virtual Institute at the Unesco International Institute for Educational Planning, which is the UNESCO's centre for training and research specialising in educational planning and management.
- She led the Canadian government’s Correspondence Education Project.
- She was Chief of Projections and Analysis in the Education, Culture and Tourism Division of Statistics Canada.
- Subsequently, she became Director of the Division of Research, Policy and Planning at the Association of Universities and Colleges of Canada.